F87 M2 CS

[Jupp]

Erster Test M2 CS

 

[M2_Canarias]

Interessante Zusammenfassung von Marc Rutten anlässlich seines heutigen Besuches bei M... vor allem Punkt 11, zwecks Bremsenwahl

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Good evening everyone, I had a full day with BMW M today featuring a close up look at the M2 CS and more which I can't say much about right now. No drive unfortunately, because this didn't fit in the total day schedule but I will pick up a CS over the coming weeks for a few weeks to give a proper look at living with it.

I met up with the project lead of the BMW M2 series, and I had the chance to ask him everything. Of course, he could not answer all, but shared a lot of information about the M2 CS that many of you guys might not know yet. (Or maybe do...)

While looking at his pre-production M2 CS and my M2C, we discussed his private M2C as well, which he upgraded with a few nice options as a KW Clubsport suspension kit and an Akrapovic slip-on exhaust. He truly enjoyed his own car on track and in the mountains. True driving enthusiast.

Let me share a few interesting details for you guys.

1. The Michelin Cup 2 tire on the M2 CS was specifically designed for the new CS, and is now available for us all to buy. The tire is major improvement over the standard one, which we all have been using the past years. It comes with the tire connect app sensors installed and has the velvet tire walls. I will get more info from Michelin on the tire early next week. First information has told me that the side walls are a lot harder to deal with heavier cars.

2. The roof on the M2 CS is a structural part of the bodywork! This is different from the way for instance I put a carbon roof on my car or a stock roof is fitted in a M2 or M2C. The bar that connects both top side arches of the roof is absent on the CS. The roof is made of two layers of carbon fiber pressed together with in the middle a honeycomb structure (check the attached photos). Never seen that before!

3. Weight saving! The carbon roof saves about 10-10,5 kg. The carbon center tunnel saves 2.5 kgs. The carbon ceramic brake option for the front brakes saves 22 kg over the M Sport kit with the red caliper.

4. The exhaust on the CS has two changes from the M2C. It has a new mid damper and larger CS style tailipes for an enhanced sound volume. I heard the car and the sound is not that different from the M2C. It is a notch louder.

5. The air ducts on the carbon bonnet are functional and push air into the engine compartment. The bonnet is surprisingly flat in comparison to the CS and GTS bonnets on the F8x M3 and M4. There is no real bulge.

6. The front splitter and rear spoiler were developed to be fitted in combo. They offer a considerable amount of additional downforce and also stability at high speed. The project lead suggested us to fit it only in a combination and not to mix the M Performance parts with the CS parts.

7. The story behind the color Misano Blue was an interesting one. Like normal many colors are tried, but they never found a Red or Orange they really liked and which fitted the shape of the car. Like HS doesn't work on the M8 GC, red didn't work on the M2C, I was told. They then looked at Blue again and found out they were limited to the colors the factory had available in their pallet. In the end, Misano Blue was chosen as a color that fitted their liking.

8. The new wheel arch stripes we all have seen are there because of homologation guidelines. New rules have been set across the world and they are installed because else the cars are illegal in many countries. The arches cover all the new guidelines across all the countries.

9. On the software side of things, the ECU tune has only 40 hp more and no other changes. The gearbox software is like the M2C, the differential has new software to cope with the new adaptive suspension and the steering software was also altered in relationship to the M2C. Let's see if we can get that stuff in our cars with aftermarket coilover kits.

10. The brake air cooling ducts in the M2 CS Racing (which I saw as well) fit on our M2 and M2C cars. Like the carbon door cards, the front bumper can be ordered via the Motorsport parts list and fitted accordingly. There was also someone who mentioned that there was a template somewhere to drill the hole in your stock bumper.

11. We discussed our common issues with our cars and BMW is aware internally what issues are common and which we ask warranty for, such as the rear lights and the crank hub. Surprisingly, the stone-between-barrel-and-caliper issue wasn't really a thing they had a solution for.

I have shared some photos of the CS that was on site which had some damage. We discussed a smaller disc and brake kit, but that is not a cheap solution. Choose the normal stock brake kit on a M2C seems to be a smart move, but I think CS owners will have to deal with a lot of scratched wheels. The caliper is damn freaking close to the barrel of the wheels.

12. Interestingly, the CS racing had a Alcon 6-pots front brake kit and stock 4-pots M sport rear brake kit.

13. Production numbers of the CS are unknown at this stage. It could be 2200, but also a whole bunch more. They will make as many as they can. Cars are in production now and the EOL (end-of-life) is October. European cars are build first so that they have a CoC before end of August since the S55 engine is not compliant anymore from September onwards.

14. The reason the M2C and M4C with OPF don't have the fart noise on shifting like the older F8x M3 and M4 is because of noise regulations. Cars have to become more quiet and therefore they had to remove this. It has nothing to do with the OPF addition to those cars.

15. Everyone that did drive the car stepped out with a big smile and enjoyed it a lot. M-smiles galore from anyone on this event. A few people who had experience from the M2C, said the M2 CS was a great step forward on handling.

Hier ist sein Bericht -> https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/06/21/bmw-m2-cs-technical-details/

 

[Ratcher]

Zumindest ein paar Punkte sind so, wie soll man sagen,... "Achtung"... Zum Beispiel, der ESD ist so hässlich wegen Crash Tests, usw...

 

[M2_Canarias]

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[twister]

du guckst dir freiwillich und ohne Schmerzensgeld dafür zu bekommen
vids von dieser elendigen Hackfresse an, Miguel ?

 

[Erebor]

du guckst dir freiwillich und ohne Schmerzensgeld dafür zu bekommen
vids von dieser elendigen Hackfresse an, Miguel ?

Ich kann gar nicht genug betonen, wie sehr ich dir hier zustimme.

 

[M2_Canarias]

du guckst dir freiwillich und ohne Schmerzensgeld dafür zu bekommen
vids von dieser elendigen Hackfresse an, Miguel ?

Normalerweise nicht, dieses Mal nur wegen dem CS

 

[David-Pr]

Punkt 1. Und 10. Interessieren mich. Die wuerde ich gerne auf meinen M2er installieren. Weisst jmmnd wie die Cup reifen kenngezeichnet sind? Und dann sku furs bumper.

 

[Ratcher]

Punkt 1. Und 10. Interessieren mich. Die wuerde ich gerne auf meinen M2er installieren. Weisst jmmnd wie die Cup reifen kenngezeichnet sind? Und dann sku furs bumper.

Quote: " Production numbers are: 120817 245s and 266154 265s. Both are Pilot Sport Cup 2 * DT1 Connect tyres"

 

[David-Pr]

Und die Cup Reifen. Da steht specifically designed for the M2 CS, ich kann leider die Daten von den Reifen nirgendwo finden. Wenn jemmand nen M2CS hat schick mal bitte ein Foto von den reifen. Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 265/35 R19 98Y * kann man immer kaufen aber glaube nicht, dass die gleich sind wenn die andere fur den CSer entwickelt waren

 

[David-Pr]

Bekomme 25% auf Porsche, aber 25% von 150 000€ bleibt immer noch ne Stange Geld.

Ich habe auch Interesse. Wuerde auch nen GT4er nehmen.

 

[M2_Canarias]

Und die Cup Reifen. Da steht specifically designed for the M2 CS, ich kann leider die Daten von den Reifen nirgendwo finden. Wenn jemmand nen M2CS hat schick mal bitte ein Foto von den reifen. Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 265/35 R19 98Y * kann man immer kaufen aber glaube nicht, dass die gleich sind wenn die andere fur den CSer entwickelt waren

Die Reifen stehen anscheinend erst ab kommenden Juli zur Verfügung

Weitere Info-> https://www.2ertalk.de/threads/4700/

 

[M2_Canarias]

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[M2_Canarias]

https://motorblock.at/bmw-m2-cs-schneller-als-porsche-cayman-gt4-am-hockenheimring/

 

[David-Pr]

IRL bin ich ziemlich viel gegen GT4er in meinen M2er (vor crazy tuning) auf dem HHR ring gefahren und in den geraden koennten die GT4er nicht mithalten. Das zaehlt fur die Parabolica Kurve auch... Wenn HHR ja alles speed ist dann wundere ich mich nicht, dass das Auto schneller als nen GT4er ist. der GT4er gewinnt nur bei den letzten 2 Kurven und dann noch bei der S Kurve 2/3/4

 

[Wolfi87]

Also ich hab meinen in Weiß mit allem ohne Keramik bestellt....

 

[Chapman1977]

Das sind andere Kunden und andere Autos...... Du kannst Porsche mit keinem anderen Deutschen Hersteller vergleichen.

Bekomme 25% auf Porsche, aber 25% von 150 000€ bleibt immer noch ne Stange Geld.

Manche hier Vergleichen Äpfel mit Birnen :daumenrunter:.

Hab Dir eine PN geschickt!

 

[M2Flo]

Wie bekommt man 25% auf Porsche?? Da kompensiert man ja schon gut Wertverlust bei dem Nachlass.

 

[Ratcher]

Und die Cup Reifen. Da steht specifically designed for the M2 CS, ich kann leider die Daten von den Reifen nirgendwo finden. Wenn jemmand nen M2CS hat schick mal bitte ein Foto von den reifen. Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 265/35 R19 98Y * kann man immer kaufen aber glaube nicht, dass die gleich sind wenn die andere fur den CSer entwickelt waren

Da hat einer auf FB Kontakt mit Michelin aufgenommen und anscheinend sind die Reifen technisch absolut gleich.

 

[David-Pr]

Da hat einer auf FB Kontakt mit Michelin aufgenommen und anscheinend sind die Reifen technisch absolut gleich.

Easy Marketing fur BMW hah.

 

[Pimpnase]

Haben die nicht nur jetzt diese Möglichkeit bekommen den neuen Sensor zu nutzen? Sonst wurde ja nichts dazu erwähnt.